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Image of Turing aged 5

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Is this image in the public domain? The caption there reads: "Alan Turing, aged 5, Photo [AMT/K/7/2]. Thanks Martinevans123 (talk) 18:04, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'd imagine the image was taken in the UK, so you'd need to look up their laws. TarnishedPathtalk 10:28, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Possibly here? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:59, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It says: "* Anonymous works * Photographs created before 30 June 1957: 70 years after creation if unpublished, 70 years after publication if published within 70 years of creation" So that would have been under copyright only until 22 June 1988, at the latest? Martinevans123 (talk) 15:27, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There are other images, lower down the article, of the younger Turing, which also appear to be anonymous and not marked with any copyright statement. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:03, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lead image proposal

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Which of the following images should serve as the lead image for Turing's infobox?

Absolutiva (talk) 15:12, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In my view it should be "C". I think "A" is from too young an age and "B" looks strange (I think because his left eye is so dark almost as if it were empty). --Qcomp (talk) 15:34, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Agree, "C", for exact same reasons. Not sure why it was ever changed. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:00, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed C. It is the familiar photo of A.T., and the suggested cropping is a slight improvement. I don't like the centre one, but would have no major objection to A. I also would have no difficulty with A&C as adding some aspects, but I don't feel strongly about it. JonRichfield (talk) 13:14, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I prefer "B". It comes across as more honest-looking, possibly because he's looking at the camera. --Trovatore (talk) 20:09, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RFC: Lead image

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The following discussion is an archived record of a request for comment. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this discussion. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
There was overwhelming consensus for image C. There was no consensus on whether it should be cropped. Zerotalk 05:23, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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As per above, which of the following images should be used for Turing's infobox? Absolutiva (talk) 09:19, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutiva (talk) 09:19, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Polling

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Discussion

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The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

OBE in Lead

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As Turing did not have his award rescinded following his conviction, why does "OBE" not appear in the first line after his name? Billsmith60 (talk) 01:34, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The WP:Manual of Style/Biography#Post-nominal_letters cited in edit of 25 November is not absolute regarding the UK. I have reinstated it Billsmith60 (talk) 01:42, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's currently being discussed at the Talk page there, with some suggesting the previous RfC was not valid and should be overturned. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:39, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 10 March 2025

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a section about his portrayal in movies should be added especially the movie "the imitation game" where he is incorrectly introduced as the person who cracked the enigma machine code. it should be noted to the public that in fact a polish mathematician cracked the code.Turing only improved the machine designed by Marian Rejewski. Thank you Wikiakant23 (talk) 11:24, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

'No change will be the outcome of this request as you havent suggested your change in a "Change X to Y" format as requested. It also needs some reliable sources. - Roxy the dog 11:27, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: Turing is mentioned a few times at Marian Rejewski. There might be a case for mentioning Rejewski in this article? The Imitation Game is already mentioned. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:34, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Turing's homosexuality

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I propose to insert a discussion of the "light-heartedness" committed by Turing in revealing, without being asked, his homosexuality. The change could be this: Turing had voluntarily admitted to being a homosexual. Scholars have often wondered why Turing did not conceal this detail, which could have had criminal consequences, from the police who were investigating the theft he had suffered. Simon Goldhill, professor of classics at King's College, argued that Turing, a former student of King's, was accustomed to considering homosexuality as something normal in the upper social and cultural classes, such as King's: "the provost [college principal] and many of the senior fellows [tutors] were openly and outwardly gay. They had sex with men and talked constantly about having sex with men." (With sources.) NONIS STEFANO (talk) 17:27, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think that's probably WP:UNDUE. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:30, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]